Steve Kidd's Quiz Pages

Spread, with special regard to music

I like music rounds, proper ones, not those ones which are 'press when you hear the tune'. The easiest ones for a host to run are name the artist/tune/year/first word of the next record. As time wears on I find I am not quite keeping up with modern acts such as The Spice Girls, and get all grumpy when teams of young hardy bucks start running away with them. I'm an idiot, I know.

Anyhoo, I did the stats on the music rounds in two great quizzes I went too on consecutive nights in Donaghadee and Bangor. One I remained bouyant, the other I was blown out of the water and the debris sank without trace.

We all want stuff we can answer, yet on the second quiz I knew only one of the first 12 records. Now, I know I'm getting on, and stuff is taking longer to recognise or even evading me altogether but I'm still OK. I still get first place to answers in large groups, I got a great score on Radio 2's Popmaster, I was in the lead at the half way point of The Great British Pop Quiz or something in London and broadcast nationally on TV, so I want to understand - what happens?

Whatever. Here are the two quizzes:

Quiz One
Question Artist SongYearUK#MeNotes
1 Title Outkast He Ya 2003 3 Yes Billboard #1
2 Title Def Leppard Pour Some Sugar on me 1987 18 Yes Billboard #2
3 Title Abba Voulez Vous 1979 3 Yes
4 Title Girls Aloud Biology 2005 4 No
5 Artist Christina Aguilera Don’t know 2010 10 Yes 12 teams Am guessing year and position
6 Artist Shania Twain When 1998 18 Yes
7 Artist Mika Relax, Take It Easy 2007 18 No #1 in several European countries
8 Artist Swing Out Sister Breakout 1986 4 Yes
9 Artist Barry White You See The Trouble with Me 1976 2 Yes
10 Artist Nick Berry Heartbeat 1992 2 Yes Clued up about actor
11 Artist Kings of Leon Use Somebody 2008 2 Yes
12 Artist Kelis Caught Out There 1999 4 No
13 Artist Go West King Of Wishful Thinking 1990 18 Yes
14 Title Gladys Knight etc Midnight Train to Georgia 1973 10 Yes Billboard #1
15 Artist Gerry and The Pacemakers I Like It 1963 1 Yes Only two teams – says something
16 Artist Eurythmics Here Comes the Rain Again 1983 8 Yes
17 Artist Hollies The Air That I Breathe 1974 2 Yes
18 Artist Erasure Love To Hate You 1991 4 No
19 Artist Wet wet wet Sweet Surrender 1989 6 Yes
20 Artist Nick Kershaw I Won’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me 1983 2 Yes

1 from the 1960s, 4 70's 5 each from the 80s, 90's and noughties. 19 separate years represented. Nothing from the last ten years. All top twenty hits

Quiz Two
Question Artist SongYearUK#MeNotes
1 Song Girls Aloud Biology 2005 4 No What are the odds. This was in yesterdays quiz and I STILL didn’t get it.
2 Artist with Post Malone Morgan Wallen I Had Some Help 2024 2 No Made history by debuting at number one on both the Billboard Hot 100 and Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, and maintaining the top spot on each for its first five weeks
3 Artist Greta van Fleet Highway Tune 2017 - No #1 in Poland!
4 Song Gwen Stefani, Akon Sweet Escape 2006 2 No Billboard #2 as well
5 Year Katy Perry Waking Up in Vegas 2008 19 No Billboard #9. I thought it would have been waaay higher
6 Song Chappell Roan Red Wine Supernova 2023 31 No Billboard #41
7 Artist Blur The Universal 1995 5 No Made top 50 in 3 UN countries
8 Artist Cocteau twins Heaven or Las Vegas 1990 - No Did not chart in any national list. 7 teams got it!!!!
9 Song Dido Thank you 1990 3 Yes Billboard #3 as well. This was a curious version, with a percussion intro, and not opening with the first verse
10 Lyrics Tracy Chapman Fast Car 1988 5 No Billboard #6
11 Song Pixies Here comes your man 1989 54 No And that’s about it. I still should know it
12 Artist White stripes The Hardest (Button To Button) 2003 23 No And #42 in Ireland
13 Year Fleetwood Mac Landslide 1975 - No Billboard #51. None right. In 2021, the song was listed at No. 163 on Rolling Stone's "500 Greatest Songs of All Time
14 Song Bruce Springsteen Thunder road 1975 - No Never released as a single, ranked number 111 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time list 2021
15 Artist Carly Simon You're So Vain 1972 3 Yes Billboard #1 and several other countries
16 Lyrics Abba Mamma Mia 1975 1 Yes Never heard of it
17 Artist Steely Dan Reelin' In The Years 1972 - Yes Billboard #11. A six season Irish TV program of the same name did use the tune
18 Year Talking Heads Psycho Killer 1977 - No Stop Making Sense is a great music concert movie
19 Lyrics Billy Joel Pianoman 1973 - No Billboard #25 but far more popular than its chart positions would indicate. Nobody got it all the same
20 Movie Charlie XCX Speed Drive 2023 9 Yes Barbie
21 Song Kelly Clarkson My Life Would Suck Without You 2009 1 No Billboard #1
22 Lyrics Don McClean American pie 1971 2 Yes Billboard #1. Standard ‘which of these didn’t reach UK #1’

8 from the 1970s (7 from the first half)!, 2 from the 80s, 3 from the 90's, 5 from the noughties, 1 from the twenteens, and three from the last five years. 7 non charting tunes in the UK; having said that I would suggest that five of those are 'legitimate' asks.

Comparing both they yield a close average year (1990 and 1994). Given 7 from the first half of the 70s in Quiz 2 I would have bet my house on me acing it. I did not.

A very obvious aspect in pop quizzes, as with anagrams, dingbats and other idiosyncratic puzzly stuff is that more hands make light work. If a team has a both sexes and a spread of age, if they are moderately competent, it is going to be very difficult for an individual to compete with them on music. There is the intuitively logical factor that younger people are faster. Now, this is important for pub quizzes in that any host would prefer teams than individuals (but please don't point that out, I'd be fekked).

I went to a quiz earlier this year that was entirely music from 2000 -2010, it is the only quiz I have walked out of. Not angry, just bored shitless, it was a done deal after ten of the 180 questions, and it just held no interest for me. These two quizzes were both terrific, spreading the chance around and intresting me (look up the stats for I Had some Help; if that does not justify inclusion in a pop quiz nothing does. But they certainly had a different level of challenge for me.

The last two pop quizzes I have organised I made a special effort to be inclusive with date spread (80 UK number ones from 80 years, and five sections from 5 eras). On both of them I really pissed people off, so what do I know?

So, given the understanding that we all love the music from when we are teenagers, that percieved bias is inescapable, actual bias is understandable (and probable), and we are blessed to enjoy music I can only say I musn't grumble if a music quiz pulls the rug from under my feet. I fekkin' will though!!

Alan Leach, the head honcho at SpeedQuizzing makes a good point. Separating the music from the general knowledge for separate prizes may be more inclusive to those who have a blind spot with music. And anybody who thinks naval gazing, phone nicking, synthetic drug advocating, scruffy, Madchester Britgroan from the 1990s is music has such a blind spot (sic).

In conclusion, I really haven't got a clue have I? :)

Hosts: spread it around a bit please. I do like pop trivia questions.

Everybody: Go sit on a rock at Orlock Bay and listen to For Good from Wicked.

And none of it really matters anymore